When teaching in 1 Thess 4:16-17, a teaching elder said, "It was a prophesied event, but a meaning to the prophesied event was not known till Paul. Then he repeated that Paul put a secret meaning to prophesied events. He also said of the shout, the voice, and the trump, that these events are unexpected and unprophesied.
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The teaching elder said the shout announces the conclusion of the dispensation of grace.
Could anyone show me the VERSE that teaches that?
He said the voice has to do with His standing for the nation of Israel and the resumption of Israel’s program.
Could anyone show me the VERSE that teaches that?
The teaching elder said the trump was for the resurrection of the dead, our gathering together. I’ll go along with that .... but not with this:
He then DIVIDED the trump .... into 2 different 'blasts':
Blast # 1 will be for the dead in Christ to arise.
Separate blast # 2 will be for the alive to be changed.
He believes this second blast is ‘the last trump’ of 1 Cor 15:52.
Could anyone show me the VERSE that teaches the 2 blasts from the 1 trump?
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If not, don’t believe the ‘mid-Acts-ers’.
Instead, trust the word of GOD.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
